Only Love will Win a Holy War (Debuntante discussion)

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I thought this song might work for our debutante discussion. Clintsythe did racism; I’m doing war. Anyway, thought I’d throw it out there. Warning: “it’s kinda preachy.”

“Only Love Can Win a Holy War”

You can live so righteously and have a faith so pure.
But if you ain’t got the love, the people will never be cured.
[chorus]

Cause only love, only love can win a holy war.
Only Love, only love can win a holy war.

Everybody wants to prove their right. So much they’ll wage a bloody fight.
But when all the killin’s done, nobody’ll know who really won.

[Chorus]
[Lead Break]
[chorus]

Everybody wants to give advice about what’s right for this land.
But ain’t nobody willin to pay the price and lend the helping hand.

[chorus]
You Might like to read the Bible or you might read the Koran
You might have a really sharp knife or a nuclear weapon.
[chorus]
[outro]

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14 Responses to Only Love will Win a Holy War (Debuntante discussion)

I like it. The vocal has a Joe Walsh feel kinda. It seems somewhat like its suppose to be humorous with the dead pan delivery and plodding pace. I hope thats what you were going for. I Think you could speed it up a little though and make it a little shorter. I like your approach.

Thank you, I’m glad you liked it. The song kind’ve evolved on its own. It’s not suppose to be humorous though; I hoped that it would make people think about things–especially the wars of course. I know that it is very idealistic in its message–so idealistic that maybe it is humorous. I would like to speed up the song a bit as it progresses (not at the beginning). i used a drum machine so I may have to figure out how to increase the speed a bit as i play. Anyway, thanks for listening and the kind evaluation.

clintsythe
Commented:  January 21, 2013 at 1:50 PM()

Good message. You’re right, it’s hard to not get preachy on a subject like this.

Rembow
Commented:  January 22, 2013 at 7:04 PM()

Only love can win a holy war. Great line. I lost the sense of momentum a couple times listening, but I like some parts a lot. I thought you were about to build to something awesome with the change in drums right before the second chorus because that sounded really cool. The electronic solo is neat. The outro overall is my favorite part, especially the leader guitar. I’m really liking your material man, keep it coming. Do you plan on putting together a band or otherwise doing anything or is this just for the hell of it right now?

You know what would sound kinda hilarious here, possibly? A droll spoken line behind the singing, haha. Like a parody of a harmony.

    Thanks Rembow, everything is me except for the drum machine. Yeh, the drum builds to the 2nd chorus (ha, ha), i got to work on better dynamics. I have been playing with some guys in a garage jam session like mode, but there lives are kinda messed up right now, so we’re on hold. We do some of my songs but not this one. I have done this one solo a few times at open mics–just accoustically. Let me know what you mean by your last little bit about the droll spoken line. What words did you have in mind to be spoken?

      Rembow
      Commented:  February 4, 2013 at 11:25 AM()

      Well I was imagining kind of a drone, like the way Cake’s singer tends to vocalize (similar but not exactly that… even more monotone). Originally I was thinking the same lyrics (like a parody of a vocal harmony almost) but it might be cool to have a completely different lyric going at the same time.

andyburr
Commented:  February 11, 2013 at 10:08 AM()

I think you should give a listen to Creedence’s “Fortunate Son” and cop some of that vibe — they got the tempo just right. Speeding it up would give the message some intensity _and_ make it good for the dance floor.

    It’s funny you mention that song “Fortunate Son.” I love that song and I’ve been doing that song in a couple of groups I’ve played with. Your the second one that has mentioned speeding up the song. But I’m not sure yet; I wanted the song to cause people to think more than to dance. But I will ponder the notion. Thanks for listening.

      andyburr
      Commented:  February 11, 2013 at 10:41 AM()

      Funkadelic said “Free your mind and your ass will follow,” but I think the corollary is also true: Capture the body and the mind will follow. Maybe it’s related to the ‘Stockholm syndrome’ (or maybe not). Anyway, when you’ve got someone grooving to the beat, the message will hitch-hike a ride to their brain along with it. I learned that in jingle-writing school. 😉

Chuck Sweitzer
Commented:  February 18, 2013 at 10:28 AM()

I agree with spadanny, you could speed it up a bit to gain some energy.
Maybe you could drop a few solo’s. Then make the ONE that you keep
be relevant to the rest of the song. The best case is when everything fits together and supports all the other pieces. Check out “BANG A GONG” (Get It ON) for a good example of the feel I think you were after.

    Yeh, I hear what you and the rest are saying. I’m still playing around with it. I have sped it up and re-listened a few times, but I didn’t like it as much myself sped up. Anyway, it’s interesting that you mentioned “Bang a Gong.” That is another song I’ve done with a group which I used to play with, and still do, just less. It’s a cool song–especially for just jamming. Thank you for listening.

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